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Paul Buxton's avatar

I learned recently that Bill Wilson, co-founder of AA, used LSD therapeutically and credited it at least in part with his recovery from alcoholism. Interesting topic and it's a shame that these therapies are not more widely used.

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Professor's avatar

Yes. That isn't well known. There were 2 factions at one point. Those who like Bill supported the use of LSD as a help for alcoholism and those who didn't. They faction that didn't prevailed.

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Brent Carlson's avatar

You should read Dr Harry Tiebout. I’m an alcoholic who has studied my “disease”. There are two parts, first is the phenomena of craving , where I can’t stop with just one drink. Second is my mental obsession. I drank alcohol to relieve my alcoholism.

Everything you’ve written is quite true about early trauma and forgiveness etc. None of that is new at all. The real problem is with the ego. It must completely surrender and if it surrenders once the drinking may stop for a time But.. the ego has great recuperative powers and will come back leading most to drink again. As Dr Tiebout writes the only way for the ego to stay surrendered is with the help of a Diety. And you must maintain a watch for the ego, and a conscience contact with God for the rest of the alcoholics life.

My opinion is the “trip on the magic mushrooms” only induced the surrender I discussed.

Thanks for your article. If a psychiatrist wants to cure alcoholism with a patient he should contact one of the PrimeTime members. It’s basically an advanced AA program with scientific study of the “disease” and a spiritual program including prayer and meditation as well as study groups and AA meetings.

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Professor's avatar

There was a lot of research and treatment of alcoholism with psychedelis in the late 50's and early 60's. When these substances were banned that stopped.

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Neil Pryke's avatar

Over Here, we think it's "Alcohol depresses, magic mushrooms lift..."

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Mike's avatar

My understanding of the CTMU explanation is that psilocybin raises awareness to nonterminal levels of reality (think of parse trees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parse_tree). The terminal level is physical reality, but there is a higher grammatical structure thereto, and psilocybin can lift us so we are not so beholden to the physical level for a time, often providing us with new perspective.

God bless Rav

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Jerms 9654's avatar

If you got the placebo it mustve been a big disappointment. Sitting on the couch waiting and waiting to trip out---and nothing. That alone would make me go grab a six pack.

Joking aside--i believe psychedelics can definitely help improve lives if used the right way.

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KurtOverley's avatar

Is there a similar study examining psilocybin for smoking/nicotine addiction?

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Pawletto's avatar

How does one find guides for such treatment? (California)

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Rav Arora's avatar

If you're willing to fly to Vancouver, you can get the best clinical treatment I know. Contact Carson at carson.kivari@gmail.com who runs a psychotherapy clinic here. He may be able to direct you to the right people.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Cool. I used AA and it worked for me but if this works all power to those who use it because alcoholism SUCKS.

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